On the other hand, this passage to fifteen guns took place at the cost of a drastic reduction of armor compared to New Orleans. They were launched in 1920-23 and completed in 1922-24, bearing the names of southern American cities (Omaha, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Raleigh, Detroit, Richmond, Concord, Trenton, Marblehead, and Memphis). 12.7 mm, 2×4 TLT 533 mm.Crew: 750. At first a twin installation in Oregon City hulls was contemplated, on the theory that these ships might not even be delayed by the change; however, the General Board was already dissatisfied with existing heavy cruiser designs and felt that by demanding a completely new ship with triple turrets it would provide the postwar fleet with at least some satisfactory cruisers; otherwise the war might end with nothing but an inadequate six-gun ship under construction. In the modern era the parlance is played fast an loose. Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:49 am . USS Pensacola twin, USS Salt Lake City, was launched in 1930 and completed in 1931. This ubiquitous secondary, dual purpose artillery was a wartime creation in its dual turret form. Bomb protection included a separate ‘bomb deck’ Roanoke late in her career above the principal armoured deck, as in battleships and some heavy cruisers a quartet of floatplanes aft with their catapults; these were never, however, installed, although the hangar and crane were. This allowed a 5.5 in (130 mm) armour thickness overall on the central cell and belt. They fired a 105 pounds (48 kg) shell at 900 meters per second (2,950 ft/s) and up to 23,130 meters (25,295 yd) in maximal elevation. This was the only loss of this class, and only USN cruiser sunk by missiles. The “tin clad cruisers” period was drawing to an end in Europe, Italy unveiling the Zara class and France the Algérie. Just like the previous class, seven of the Brooklyn class were built between 1935 and 1938. Realistically virtually all current frigate and destroyer classes in most navies fill the various roles that cruisers did up until WW2, with about the same level of diversification. The Oerlikon AA guns has been designed by Switzerland and intended first to serve as a main French AA light gun. Each time these manoeuvers needed to be made a a lower speed than the operation required. The three ships completed appear to have been successful, USS Newport News serving as a flagship and fire support ship until she was decommissioned in 1975. Intervention cruiser? The weaker version was the Mark 17, only capable of 5-8 rounds per minute and installed on the Erie class gunboats in single mounts. Displacement: 29,780 t. standard -34 253 t. Full LoadDimensions: 246.43 m long, 27.76 m wide, 9.70 m draftMachinery: 4 propellers, 4 GE turbines, 8 Babcock & Wilcox boilers, 150,000 hp.Top speed: 33 knotsArmor: Belt 220, turrets 315, bridges 80-100, blockhouse 270 mmArmament: 9 guns of 305 (3 × 3), 12 of 127 (6 × 2), 56 guns of 40 (14 × 4), 34 of 20 mm AACrew: 1,417, Your email address will not be published. These much heavier ones could in parabolic trajectory cross the thickest armor of Japanese heavy cruisers in service. The Wichita entered service in 1939, and she was an important milestone in the design of USN heavy cruisers of the 1940s: The Baltimores class studied in 1940 were closely inspired by the Wichita. Their main features, apart from their huge hull, were their artillery in three 8-in triple turrets, as for the Wichita, a secondary AA artillery made of standard 5-in twin turrets, and a much higher light weaponry . Armor: Turrets 30-70, belt 120, CT 130 and casemate 80 mm, decks 60 mm. For example, the RCN’s T-26 is the Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) ship. 109. USS Boston and Canberra were converted at New York SB, both were recommissioned in November 1955 and June 1956. Semi-automated, these had excellent anti-aircraft capabilities as well as anti-ships and became widespread on the USN. 32.5 knots Armor: Turrets 165, belt 63, blockhouse and casemate 105-50 mm, bridge 51 mm. However, the success of the 6in/47 design inspired the Bureau of Ordnance to develop an automatic 8in/55, which was suitable for heavy cruisers not much larger than the Worcesters; the General Board at one point recommended that all seven new light cruisers contemplated (CL143-149) be re-ordered as large heavy cruisers. It was similar to the mark 14 with the exception of an increased rifling twist. Indeed the first five ships had no 20 mm Oerlikon either at the start but a set of less popular 1.1-inch/75 (28 mm) quad “Chicago Piano” mounts. At min-1942 a radar was added to them, and what they had left of torpedo tubes (four quadruple benches, originally 16 tubes) were removed to improve their stability, as well as the catapults for seaplanes that fitted some of them. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Jan 4, 2021 #4 I think Chris’s explanation is right on. The experience of the conflict had made it possible to mount such a concentration of guns around the central redoubt that each ship could set up a veritable “wall of steel” impassable to the torpedo bombers, and later to the Kamikazes. Like other navies, welding construction technique was adopted to save tons of steels rivets. BT-2 (Bystrochodnij Tankov) Fast Light Tank. It was proved that her AA did not have sufficient scope. These guns, declined into many variants were the staple of USN heavy cruiser design, from the Pensacola class and Lexington class aircraft carriers to the Des Moines. USS Astoria, Quincy and Vincennes were famously destroyed during the battle of Savo in August 1942, and the others participated in many hard engagements but survived the war. The latter two had their machines rearranged, and new 5-in/38 in the brand new twin turret instead of the previous single unprotected mounts, while their superstructures were revised behind the aft funnel. Indeed, the Pensacola class in the 1925 started with CA24 and 25. Lighter designs such as the Omaha and Atlanta later proved they were quickly overweight and rolled badly. Some Navies operate one class as a Destroyer others as a Frigate and a third as a Corvette. Protection was to ensure immunity against the 6in 105lb shell between 9300 and 28,000yds (90° target angle); against 1000lb SAP bombs dropped from any altitude; and against 12in 1000lb AP bombs dropped from below 7500ft. The USS Pensacola in March 1945, in support of Okinawa. Like them, they had this hull flush-deck and were recognisable “oven pipers”. The Mark 35 round exited the barrel at 2,500 ft/s (760 m/s). The rate of fire rose to four rounds per minute. Also it was no longer claimed that the range and firepower of 8-in artillery made any protection superfluous. Indeed in surface action near Guadalcanal, USS Atlanta and Juneau were lost. No colonies to cruise, of course, but I'm sure we can come up with a revised name to fit modern circumstances. They also had 40 mm Bofors and Oerlikon since the beginning. Largely in a late-war (1945) programme, which would have added CA150-153, was never approved by the President, leaving, at the end of the war, eight prospective members of the Des Moines class. 12.7 mm AA, 4 aircraft Crew: 868, USS Wichita and USS Wasp at Scapa Flow by April 1942. This culminated in the sub-class Oregon City, launched as her two sister-ships Albany and Rochester in 1945 and completed in 1946. Until September 1944, about 32% of all Japanese aircraft downed were credited to the Oerlikon gun, and up to 48.3% from June 1942, espeically with the adption of the Mark 14 Gunsight developed by Dr. Charles Draper of MIT, using two gyros to measure vertical and lateral rate of change, integrated in the generic Mark 51 AA director. Two 45 pounds (20 kg) silk bags of smokeless powder were loaded each time. In fact the sub-class Oregon City had comparatively far less of the smaller 20 mm Oerlikon guns: Twenty. USS Juneau in 1942, showing her particular camouflage, Displacement: 6,718 t. standard -8,340 t. Full LoadDimensions: 165 m long, 16.21 m wide, 6.25 m draftMachinery: 2 shaft Westinghouses turbines, 4 B & W boilers, 75,000 hp.Top speed: 32.5 knots Shielding: Max: 90 mmArmament: 16 guns of 127 (8 × 2), 16 of 40 mm AA (4 × 4), 8 of 20 mm, 8 TLT 533 mm (2 × 4), 80 grenades ASMCrew: 623. 1934. Some areas were protected against 6-in shells at certain angles, but 8-in shells could pass through them without problem. They did not participated in the conflict unlike the other eight completed in 1942-45, USS Atlanta, Juneau, San Diego, San Juan, Oakland, Reno, Flint, and Tucson. They remained in service between 20 and 25 years, disarmed 1962-66, even 1973 for USS Spokane. This was the perfect deterrent force of its day after all. - Banning Communism or Fascism should now also remove foreign communist/fascist influence national … The CL category was fairly diverse, since it contained the AA cruisers of the Atlanta class, up to the 14,000 tons (fully loaded) Cleveland and 18,000 tons for the Worcester class. and 32.5 knots max. Each of the Alaska-class was given nine Mark 8 in three triple arrangements, so 18 in total for the whole class as the remainder ships were cancelled. But these choices were paid later in practice and throughout their careers. They were later supplemented by a massive AAA, reaching its maximum at the end of 1944 with four quadruple and six twin 40 mm carriages, and twenty 20 mm AA in twin or 18-20 in single mounts. You may hear the Russian Navy Kirov class being referred to as a Battlecruiser, its not. The heavy cruiser genre was then brought to a logical degree of “upsizing” taking into account the reality that applied to all warships, ever larger and more powerful. Armament: 9 x 203 mm (3×3), 8 x 127 mm, 8 x 12.7 mm, 4 seaplanes. Speed was just 24 kn (27.6 mph; 44.4 km/h), which was at the time better than most older cruisers. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Pollies here refer to it as the future frigate or CSC. The first two, Cleveland and Columbia, were laid down in the summer of 1940, while the last commissioned one of the proper Cleveland class was the USS Portsmouth (CL-102) in June 1945, however ten hulls were completed as fast light fleet aircraft carriers (CVL, Independence class), and many other converted after the war as hybrid missile cruisers. The Cleveland were more Brooklyn than Wichita in concept, which rather inspired the Baltimore. It was adopted by the Omaha class AA cruisers, the Cleveland, and Baltimore class cruisers, Alaska, Worcester and Des Moines. These were the old 3″/50 (7.62 cm) Marks 2, 3, 5, 6 and 8 types, and the more modern 3″/23.5 (7.62 cm) Marks 4 and 14 and 3″/23 (7.62 cm) Marks 7, 9, 11 and 13. 11. Morover their pitch was high due to flush deck hull too short, narrow and overloaded in the front, making these ships ploughing excessively and disturbingly, in heavy weather. The USN present us to a radical, unusual fact: There has been a total ‘vacancy’, a gap in naval programs concerning cruisers. Their anti-submarine protection was very advanced and their active service was very active and long. They were closely modelled on the Brooklyns but improved in all directions, range, AA armament, torpedo protection, electronics, etc. Naval Forces & Industry news Naval and Maritime Exhibitions News Focus - Analysis - Photo report Naval Forces Vessels & Equipmen... Titan LNG charters in 5,200 cu.m LNG bunkering vessel, Sailors hear tale of gallantry at airport, Beijing warns off US warship from South China Sea islands, CNO Asks Fleet for Moment of Silence in Honor of USS Indianapolis 75th Anniversary, SuperTermoli (ST) 60 MMI - The successor of Hellenic Navy UDC's ST60 fast interceptor. Not quite true in international terms - the La Fayettes for example carry F pennant numbers so they are NATO designation frigates; and certainly in the past their frigates have been numerous. On the other hand, anti-aircraft artillery was entrusted to eight 5-in (127 mm), way too slow to deal with modern strafing aviation, alongside eight 2.5 in way too short in range. -The Mark 12 eliminated hoops to reduce weight to 17 tons. The influence of President Roosevelt on their design is often cited. The Baltimore rose to 17,000 tons at full load, and with Prinz Eugen German, to 20,000 tons. The latter were very lightly built, yet large cruisers, displacing only 3,750 tons standard, armed with just two 5 in (127 mm)/50 caliber Mark 6 guns and an array of 3-in guns, good only for annoying torpedo boats. With a limited beam and a lightly built hull, this caused a dangerous overweight and the Pensacola cruisers were quickly seen as excessive “rollers”. This was the model fitted on the triple turrets of the USS Brooklyn and the eight other ships of the class. BT-7 (Bystrochodnij Tankov) Light Fast Tank. Effective range was 20,000-yard (18,288 m) at 22.3° elevation (130 lb AP shell), and in maximal range, 26,118-yard (23,882 m) at 47.5° elevation, again with the super-heavy Mark 35 shell. USN BuOrd investigated in 1940 to replacing the 0.50″ BMG and W.H.P. They fired a 335 pounds (152 kg) A.P. The Boston class conversion consisted in modifying the superstructures and adding two RIM-2 Terrier missile launchers aft, with the main artillery kept intact forward. This was, by all margins, the largest cruiser force that ever roamed the oceans. But that implied also a slower speed. Crew size: 631. The others served as AA escorts for the large Task Forces of the Pacific. Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:51 pm. JavaScript is disabled. The last version even made it on a cold war Forrest Sherman destroyer, the USS Hull, for testing purposes, called the 8 in/55 Mark 71 gun mount. The concept had resulted in a lightweight generic ship exclusively armed with the new standard 5-in (127 mm) dual purpose, twin turrets. Note the evolutions with the original design – see below. 24571. In addition, this was compounded by the adoption of tripod military masts, both tall and heavy, to suppoer the fire control posts, and a tall bridge blockhouse. Her last cruisers dated back also from 1906. They received a radar, new fire control systems, and a powerful AAA. A Brooklyn derivative was proposed, with better equipment and space available for its onboard aviation, and superstructures revised to release additional firing arc, and a more modern secondary armament in single DP turrets, a higher freeboard, better stability, and new turrets, more spaced, plus a much better protection, while exceeding the 10,000 tonnes limit. Their distribution and the general physiognomy brought them much closer to the contemporary American battleships, so that they were sometimes placed in the obsolete category of “battle cruisers”, which took into account their speed -33 knots-and their armor-relatively light. Consider, for example, the German F125, optimised for long endurance & low intensity operations. On trials, Des Moines achieved 125,630shp = 32.66kts at 20,532t. 316. For example, Portland and Indianapolis were upgraded in 1944 with 24 Bofors 40 mm, in six quad mounts. They were all scrapped in 1946, except the Murmansk, returned in 1947. This heavy cruiser, derived from the Brooklyn class, shared the hull with its square stern, and was authorized under the Treaty of London, for the fiscal year 1935. Support Naval Encyclopedia, get your poster or wallpaper now ! Specifications Displacement: 10,258 t. standard -12,755 t. Full Load Dimensions: 185.9 m long, 20.12 m wide, 6.40 m draft Machines: 4 propellers, 4 Parsons turbines, 8 Yarrow boilers, 107,000 hp. 15. The whole superstructure was rebuilt, and needless to say, the remaining artillery removed. These two ships were heavily engaged in the Pacific. A simple comparison makes it possible to get an idea of ​​it: The USS Wichita, when it entered service in February 1939, had 8 pieces of 127 mm and 8 machine guns of 12.7 mm. None of these were sunk during the war. Maximum speed: 32.5 knots Shield: Belt 57, turrets 65, bridges 160-50 Weaponry: 9 guns of 203 (3 × 3), 8 of 127, 8 ML 12.7 mm AA, 4 aircraft Crew: 917. They were put in reserve since 1961. The case of France was not much different though. The Baltimore class heavy cruisers were also placed in reserve in the 1940s-50s, reactivated and modernized, some kept as pure conventional ships, and others as CG/CAG missile cruisers conversions. The latest versions of ships seem to have dropped the whole scheme for acronyms. Displacement: 14,472 t. standard -17 030 t. Full LoadDimensions: 205.26 m long, 21.60 m wide, 7.32 m draftMachinery: 4 shaft GE turbines, 4 Babcock & Wilcox boilers, 120,000 hp.Top speed: 33 knotsArmor: Belt 152, turrets 203, bridges 76, inner casemate 127-155 mmArmament: 9 guns of 203 (3 × 3), 12 of 127 (6 × 2), 48 guns of 40 (11 × 4, 2 × 2), 24 of 20 mm AA, 4 planes.Crew: 723. This is also tricky with language differences. Atlantic … More poorly isolated, they were icy and wet in winter, furnaces in the summer sious the tropics. But speed remained very comfortable at 33 knots. 10. What else could it be but a colonial cruiser? So we will focus here on the main caliber of USN Cruisers since the Omaha. The Mark 35 was considered a super heavy armor-piercing ammunition. Armament: 9 x 152mm (3×3) guns, 8 x 127mm guns, 8 Mitt. Each weighted ten tons. On trials Worcester made 122,096shp = 32.81kts at 16,940t. BMW R4. They were “light” only in contrast with the Baltimore, as their wartime tonnage reached 12,000 tonnes empty and 14,000 fully load, above Washington limits. With the Alaska, the Admiralty intended to pass directly to the caliber 305 mm, that in force on the ships of line since 1890 and until 1916. You must log in or register to reply here. USS Indianapolis (CA35), colorized by Irootoko Jr. Compared to the Brooklyns, these cruisers came back to a more manageable four triple turrets (twelve guns), in favor of the new dual 5 in (130 mm)/38 caliber turrets. However in 1944 the 20 mm was found unable to stop Japanese Kamikaze planes and disappeared together with the 40 mm in the mid-1950s, rendered obsolete by the advent of the Jet age. - The Heavy Cruiser 3d Asset Pack has been merged into the base game - added a special infantry model with Pickelhaube for Unaligned Germany (Waking the Tiger) ##### # Bugfix ##### - Fixed a bug where Serbia was using the incorrect country colours. 1932. He observed, too, that not even the new 5in/54 DP weapon an effective replacement would suffice against the guided missiles being introduced by the Germans and, presumably, the Japanese; the big 6in with a proximity fuze might well be not merely useful, but absolutely necessary. Nothing of that scale was ever built afterwards, even when the USSR unveiled in 1979 its famous Kirov class “battlecruisers”. BMW R35. , Review dated 24 February 2009. But they were deployed both in Korea and Vietnam. 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